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Ok… I thought that is what you meant. I have a slightly different understanding, but I have not poured over documents to get here. I agree that the GOR insures against anyone leaving, but it’s for the WHOLE deal, not triggered by the ACCN. The order of events (in my mind, fwiw), the ACC...

Yes… it’s funny how FSU is peddling revisionist history. I guess they have to blame somebody though! The GOR goes deeper than the ACCN though… the GOR is what allows the ACC to enter into ANY media agreement with ESPN, whether it includes an ACCN or not. It may have been amended for the ACCN...

“It was known…” How was it known? Was it not memorialized in agreement form? If this was a hot button issue that conference members had input or concerns about, why was it not documented? If the ACC acted unilaterally against the wishes of members, why did it take two years to end up in a...

With regard to the bolded, why is that a strong argument? The agreement is between ACC and ESPN. The option and the deadline to exercise it are between the ACC and ESPN. Why would any member vote be necessary with regard to the espn agreement? The GOR gives the ACC the media rights of all...

I agree with all you’ve said, with one point of clarification (or maybe a point of disagreement… or maybe just a point TBD)… FSU is wrong if they are pushing that 2027 is an expiration date. It’s not… unless ESPN determines that it is by refusing the option. If ESPN takes the option, the...

I agree there is not a B12 school that replaces FSU or UNC pound for pound. If there were, that school wouldn’t be in the current B12. That said, I don’t think we have to replace pound for pound in order to increase our media revenue. I THINK our deal is below market currently. Two things about...

Now that’s positive spin! ACC take note! We just stood around and allowed all the other children to point and laugh.

Precisely. And I said it in response to a post that said all of the ACC schools would be jumping at the chance to join to b12. I don’t see either scenario is very likely, but I bet UCF and WVU would jump at the chance to join the ACC before any current ACC members would jump at the big 12...

Admittedly, I don’t know anything about the B12 GOR. However, their current media deal ends four years before the ACC. The speculation is based on what could happen when the big 12 goes back to the negotiating table in 2030.

Like I said, I’m not sure I buy it… but lots of folks claim “travel partners” and multiple teams help scheduling. Admittedly, Im reaching for who we might want from the B12.

That’s a good question…. And I’ve kinda lost track of who is over there! I’m not sure if we would want anyone else… I just see those teams moving East before our guys move west. Playing that out, though…UCF would seem a geographic fit and maybe worthwhile if we thought we’d lose both FSU and...

There’s a lot here… two things I will touch on: 1. I’m generally in agreement with you about GT being more valuable than many think. Probably not a surprise to find someone equally bullish on GT on a GT message board, but I do think we have a better shot at BIG than most. 2. I’m not buying the...

I don’t think it will be as cataclysmic as you do, but I sure hope you’re right about GT landing in the BIG! I just don’t know if media dollars can drive very many more additions to those conferences. Maybe we haven’t reached the ceiling yet but these moves have to be extraordinarily...

This I agree with. I would be very surprised if anyone outside of UNC, FSU, UVA, Miami, ND and POSSIBLY GT or Clem land in one of the P2. Several of those may only get partial shares as well. A couple of schools may throw themselves at the feet of the P2, but I don’t think any other than the...

:) The looming change to semesters was one of the biggest reasons for me getting out when I did! I was not about to let Ma Tech have another swipe at me.

I don’t know what your definition of “prolonged” is, but the only way I see a prolonged legal battle is if FSU actually leaves the conference and then sues for its media rights. As long as FSU is a member of the ACC, there is not a “legal battle…” just a bunch of posturing while parties wait...

These are the things that keep me up at night too. :LOL:

The amount of time matters significantly. Not only being able to assess the value of 1 year vs 10 years but the bigger problem FSU has right now is that whatever the ACC does sets a precedent that they have to live with for 12 years. Strike a deal with FSU today, then UNC, Clemson, etc have...

You’re right about that… FSU is not confident enough in their position to attempt to “swim.” They also aren’t faced with shutting down their athletic department either. They are one of the top revenue producing programs in college sports despite their membership in the lowly ACC. $30m annually...