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I think there is a lot of conflation in this thread between “making more money than in the past” and “making as much money as it could.” For instance; is the claim here that college basketball wouldn’t have benefitted from three years of Lebron? That eyeballs and the revenue that would follow...

If the existence of someone else willing to give a person more compensation isn't an example of a market force, what on earth is it? How do you negotiate salaries if you don't look at what competitors are paying and what similarly talented applicants are accepting? If you're saying college...

If the top ten percent of college players went straight to the USFL or and college football was truly amateur how long do you think the relative popularity would last? Ten years, twenty, thirty? Every time a college school or conference has opted out of chasing the most talented players they...

You think UGA was aboveboard and clean with Herschel and others? Funny how SMU got cracked down on so hard and no blue bloods did. I’ll try to simplify it: let’s establish that there is a market. Schools have been dirty in recruitment and retention of players for decades. That’s a black market...

The market forces here are the (“cheating”) schools who have paid players to play for decades. Why did SMU get killed and not UGA? Because it’s a fig leaf and a joke and always has been. They’ve been trying to have it both ways: suppress the market forces that would otherwise lead to high...

Pay-for-play (beyond just scholarships) existed long before NIL, which is part of why I think that ruling about employment status is inevitable.

If they aren’t employees it’s weird how other “non-employers” give them competing “non-salary” offers on the market from my looks-like-a-duck/quacks-like-a-duck shoes. The revenue got too big for people to all be happy with the current situation, so challenges will keep coming. I’m not sure...

If your coach’s compensation goes up by 10x+ over a few decades and yours stays flat, what would you think? During the NIL case the Supreme Court basically hung some banners saying “this whole system doesn’t seem right” so don’t be surprised if there are further blows to the NCAA re: player...

If the ACC blows up in a year or two then "there's nothing to be done" may well be correct. Hopefully GT's perception isn't too tainted by the Collins era in this case. But if it lasts for five+ more years... then there's definitely things to be done for every program that wants a good landing...

If Coleman and Sherrer aren't retained I'd love to know the behind the scenes story of why they were still involved on the field and recruiting for longer than Thacker and Tillman.

They want to leave the ACC, they might care about the perception of their own program. Obviously their perception got to where it was - where an undefeated season wasn't enough to overcome an injury - by being bad to mediocre for close to a decade. It's not going to be an instant turnaround...

🤷‍♂️ I'm gonna file this in the same bucket as the "UGA is getting in the playoffs even if they lose the SECCG" comments I read on here earlier this year. But here's the juicy part - you are saying the ACC has a perception problem. And I'm not disagreeing - I'm saying that the point of the...

Let's say the last spot came down to, say, FSU and OkSt, each with a loss or two. You don't think their relative rankings would be different if FSU had beaten UGA than if they got steamrolled? Not very likely, sure, but it wasn't likely that they'd go undefeated but suffer an injury to their...

The problem with saying that the game is completely pointless is that it *isn't* since CFB is still heavily influenced by human pollsters and media. There's gonna be blowback for this in terms of how people perceive FSU at the start of next year. And everyone who opted out to transfer out may...

The amount of non-privileged stuff I’ve seen people say in emails thinking that “Privileged” in the subject line is a magic wand to hide EVERYTHING is shocking.

I don’t believe that this years line would have been this good without a coaching change - how much potential to do better was wasted the first three years under Collins? Should we have expected a dominant line in year 2 or 3? No, but we could have seen significant progress. At the time 2007...

Nice of Gailey to recruit a 2-star who was flexible enough to get second team All-ACC his first year under a new scheme under Johnson :). (And first team in year 2.) I think that says as much about good coaches being able to figure out how to use guys to have success relatively quickly (vs bad...

If a it takes 5 years to get here even when the first 3.5 were a complete disaster of an HC then it’s hard to believe a competent coach couldn’t do it in 3.

Yeah that’s basically my view on it - no amount of years would let Collins build a great line; a good staff could have at least made progress by year 2 and then gone up from there.

If Collins improved the talent level for Key then why didn’t the wins go up? Did Collins coach progressively worse as his players got more established? ;)