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  1. Only 115 short days until kickoff...

    Oh my gosh that’s funny! How have I missed that video?!?
  2. Only 115 short days until kickoff...

    There have been some awesome finishes and some wins over better FSU teams, but 2009 stuck out to me. We were coming off a big season and off to a good start looking for an even bigger season and FSU was badly needing a win. This was exactly the type of game FSU seemed to always break our...
  3. Conference Realignment

    Lots of disturbing events in that article… Our fans doing the gator chomp was the rotten cherry on top of that sh** sundae. What the heck? Why people?
  4. Conference Realignment

    Agree… there were plenty of really compelling reasons to leave. Most thought there HAD to be more to it than we realized when it didn’t happen. The decision not to go gave legs to the notion that the invitation never actually existed.
  5. I'm starting to hate FSU fans.

    Man… where have you been? He led the lynch mob, dude. Biggest pitchfork of all. He lobbied the selection committee to leave FSU out before Jordan Travis even got injured and apparently he had a bounty out for Travis in the North Alabama locker room. Would’ve had more takers if he waited until...
  6. I'm starting to hate FSU fans.

    I hope the FSU fanboys get their wish and ESPN brokers a backroom deal worth ***billions***to shuffle them to the SEC. When I move in to my nice new house, I’d prefer not to take the annoying neighbor with me. :D Would be fun to watch them gloat for a minute and then realize what happened.
  7. Conference Realignment

    Agreed! I’m all good with the ACC holding this thing together for a while and taking the next few years to improve our stock. I’m hopeful that we make big strides this year and next just in case…
  8. Conference Realignment

    I see only one definition of “Term” and it’s 2036. There is zero doubt that the “Term” will be challenged in the absence of an ESPN agreement, for the reasons you state. There is no debate that the “Term” is worthless if the ACC can’t replace ESPN with another media deal. But, as it stands...
  9. Conference Realignment

    Actually I think the language that says it lives on is stronger than the language that suggests it goes away when / if ESPN goes. It explicitly says the Term is 2036. “Term” is capitalized and defined per the agreement. It’s very cut and dried. DURING that Term, the members are obligated to...
  10. Conference Realignment

    I agree… we know FSU will be out immediately (although they may want to hang around long enough to vote “no” on any potential new deals). I wonder how many other schools are antsy and how much time the ACC will have to pull together proposals before IT hits the fan.
  11. Conference Realignment

    The 2013 GOR you linked earlier is the prevailing document. There was a lot of bickering that the new 2016 GOR replaced it, but the Clemson complaint included both documents as exhibits and the “2016 GOR” we all wanted to see turned out to simply be an amendment to the 2013 document that...
  12. Conference Realignment

    Interesting…. Two things: 1. Just reading the paragraphs regarding GOR and media… I don’t think anything said here preempts the GOR. The GOR stands alone and apart from the bylaws and the status of any member (or non-member). My uninformed opinion, of course, but it would seem the very nature...
  13. Conference Realignment

    I don’t necessarily disagree, but if the ESPN deal goes away, FSU has their most cogent argument so far. The ACC will certainly argue as you state, the GOR is through 2036, regardless of media partner. FSU’s argument at that point is pretty good too…. that all of their obligations required to...
  14. Conference Realignment

    I mostly agree… one quibble… I am assuming there is some option out there for ESPN… can’t imagine that was totally made up. Whatever it is, it will negatively impact the ACC if it is refused (either in payout under the current deal or in term of the current deal). I don’t think FSU is trying...
  15. Time for the NCAA to give GT Football our ACC trophy back

    Right?!? If we followed the UNC gameplan, we would’ve handed out clothing to the entire student body and claimed no athlete got preferential treatment. Problem solved.
  16. Conference Realignment

    I’m intrigued by it too… especially because I think they’re just playing a game to try to get the ACC to do something that will bring heat from ESPN. It’s funny to me that it’s escalated all the way to the Florida AG. The whole thing feels like a ruse to make the ACC (and possibly ESPN also)...
  17. Conference Realignment

    Not wading through the complaint but I find it very interesting that the Florida AG is doing this. Not an attorney but the ACC is asking for an exit fee based on conference bylaws (as I understand) and any additional amount is based upon the value of FSUs media rights under the GOR… nothing to...
  18. Athlete's Thread NIL Apparel

    I have no problem with this at all. This is truer to what NIL is supposed to be than all of these pay for play collective deals.
  19. Offseason Media 2024

    Looking at their schedule… Doubt sets in on August 29th. Pissed off “here we go again” indifference on October 12th.
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