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lol. He is just upset that others have opinions that differ from some guy he knows who knows another guy who talked to another guy who stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

Well yeah, obviously negotiations with media partners and potential reduced payouts for some time period are always on the table in these things. That didn't really stop the Big 10 from taking Oregon and Washington nor did it stop the ACC from taking Stanford, SMU, and Cal, nor did it stop the...

Any of the four could go to either of the two P2 conferences. They are all attractive candidates. My only lean for any of them is Clemson to the SEC. Just call that a gut feeling. Im not sure why you think these conferences can't continue growing though. What do you think is going to stop them...

I think just losing FSU and Clemson isn't going to happen. This is a recent statement by the Chair of the Board of Trustees at UNC: I think if FSU and Clemson leave then UNC and probably UVA are gone as well. What happens after that is interesting. Every team remaining would take a P2 slot, but...

This is a good post and I don't think we are far off on the current situation. I think we just differ on our opinion of the likely outcome. Another point to consider is alot of this is going to be driven by whatever ESPN thinks. Even the Chapel Hill lawyer from the article earlier, who thinks...

If the ACC is completely unwilling to settle on anything then the league and ESPN will be in court for several years, with many things made public that they probably would rather not be. Then FSU will leave anyways. The reason the Big 12 gave up $60 million dollars and let Texas and Oklahoma off...

No I don't. This discussion started originally because of FSU's inclusion of expected media rights cost in their legal complaint. The discussion was about how those shouldn't be included simply because they are rights owned by the ACC. Then the discussion turned towards, could the ACC actually...

You are leaving out the payouts from the CFP which they won't continue to receive and you are assuming that ticket sales and donations will remain constant while they aren't in a conference and are scrounging to schedule really anybody to play in football and basketball. Not to mention the...

So if FSU leaves the ACC next year, you think creating new schedule with quality opponents in non televised games would be easy?

The amount of time left doesn't really matter. Texas and Oklahoma also exited for a reduced rate. https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/reduced-settlements-for-texas-oklahoma-joining-sec-early-leave-big-12-ads-kind-of-dumbfounded/. If it is clear cut that they could have just said, no...

There is nothing in the FSU legal complaint that insinuates the upcoming ESPN option is for continuation of the ACC network. They are pretty clearly saying is is for ACC media rights in total.

So you can't give examples nor can you answer the other questions?

Sell tickets for what games? If they can't join another conference then putting a schedule together is going to be difficult. Raising ticket prices and playing Ball St in a non televised game isn't really a solution. Good luck getting donations in the same type of environment. They simply...

Can you give some examples from your career as a lawyer. I would love to hear them. Also, why in your opinion did the Big 12 agree to allow Texas and Oklahoma to buy out the rest of their rights? Why did FSU even bother putting an estimate for media rights in their complaint?

That is basically the point. No conference would take them. They can't go independent because they would generate no media revenue at all. There is no actual way to leave the ACC and continue existing.

There is no attempt to swim here. The option for FSU in that case is stay in the ACC or shut down your athletic department. That isn't really a choice. That also makes the GOR a document not just for media rights but for holding all members hostage. No one can leave. The exit fees are pointless...

We are speaking about the claim made by FSU that the media rights agreement with ESPN will expire in 2027 unless ESPN exercises their unilateral right to extend it. You seem to be convinced that FSU made this up or completely twisted something else. I think "lies" or "made this up" fit pretty...

I don't think the 0-4 had anything to do with it really. The Hopkins trade along with internal feuding made him a dead man walking. Again, the coach that came after him was fired after one year. The coach that came after that was fired after one year. That organization has issues.

Frivolous lawsuit is different than completely lying about sensitive contract details in a legal complaint. It may not lead to disbarment but at the very least it poses significant legal problems for FSU and their legal team when it is very easily disproven.

I mean, of course it doesn't have quotes from the ESPN contract. FSU doesn't even have a copy of the ESPN contract, nor are they even allowed to take notes on it after viewing it in a secure location. But the claim is fairly straight forward. I'm not sure there is much interpretation you can...