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lol. That's not an answer. Yes or no. Do you think FSU is a member of the ACC to start the 2035 season?

Can we place bets here? I want to see who is brave enough to claim that FSU will be in the ACC in 2035. I assume everyone here thinks so.

The problem is, they can't leave the conference. The GOR is a hostage document. If the ACC attempts to refuse the ability to buy back rights then the ACC bylaws have been superseded. Therefore Jim Philips essentially owns one of the largest Athletic Departments in the country for 12 years.

That section is a larger section detailing why the GOR is not a penalty which was asserted in FSU's lawsuit. Obviously the ACC does not want this to be seen as a penalty because that increases the likelyhood of relief from the courts. In this section they flat out state that it isn't a penalty...

Its only a personal attack if others do it. Got it. And yes telling someone that they don't know the definition of a basic word is a personal attack and hyperbole at the same time. I applaud your efficiency in that matter.

My guy, you really need to read that full section.

Ill give you an example. Posting lame memes attacking someone personally instead of making useful arguments to the discussion at hand is a form of hyperbole.

And yet the ACC did not make this argument in their motion to dismiss. They did not say, we own these rights as signed over to us by FSU and therefore there is no penalty. They are arguing that there is no penalty because FSU can attempt to but the rights back at a fair market price. In your...

The extortion argument was for the people who think the ACC can make up any amount they feel like to charge FSU to buy back their rights. No they can't just say you owe us a trillion dollars like some have suggested. They intentionally put fair market price in their MTD. The issue then becomes...

I actually agree with this but its not what the ACC argued in their own motion to dismiss. You are actually contradicting their argument.

FSU is leaving. As much as everyone here wants to force them to stay until 2036, they almost certainly aren't going to. There will be some negotiation of the exit fees, as well as the media rights. That has always been my stance. If anyone here who is convinced that the ACC will fight tooth and...

You can't argue in a motion to dismiss that the GOR is not a penalty because FSU can attempt to buy back their rights and then when they attempt to buy back their rights you just shut them down completely or attempt to extort them. That's not going to happen. There was no reason for the ACC to...

I agree. This is the logical conclusion to all of this. I think it will likely be a bit earlier for FSU though. I think they will be gone around the 2026-2028 range. That is the most likely date range from some of the details in their fundraising efforts. WiIl it cost them more? Probably. Unless...

Im sorry but it takes pretty significant mental gymnastics to read: And think that the ACC is making a statement that they will never allow FSU to attempt to repurchase their rights. In fact, it isn't really mental gymnastics as much as a lack of basic reading comprehension.

While this is probably true, im not sure you want to publicly put a downgraded value on the members of your conference when you may be renegotiating TV deals in 2027.

The ACC blatantly says in a legal document that a member can attempt to buy back their rights. A well known sports writer makes the not so big jump that the ACC might be open to a member attempting to buy back their rights. GTSwarm: It's wishful thinking and far fetched to think the ACC might...

Yes, the ACC is arguing that it is not a penalty because FSU has the option to attempt to repurchase their media rights. If that option doesn't actually exist and the ACC has no intention of letting them repurchase then this entire argument from the motion to dismiss is null and void. Surely you...

I will remember that. I just hope the moderators will not selectively decide which posts they feel like flagging as insults based on their own personal feelings.

Saying in your motion to dismiss that FSU can attempt to repurchase their media rights and then immediately shutting down any attempts to repurchase their media rights doesn't seem like the best legal strategy.

For the next two years we have the 6+6 model. They are voting in a few days to change that to a 5+7 model but the Pac2 is throwing wrenches in that. After 2026, all bets are off. The SEC and Big 10 will likely push for a new model without automatic bids. If we are being honest with ourselves...