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I'm not so much "insisting" on it as opposed to pointing out the lack of objective reasoning. If you want to compare something, create a criteria and be consistent in its usage. That's why I don't bother with it. There's no consistency. I think I have read on these boards everything from ...

I think a few posters are trying to make the argument (perhaps indirectly) that the ACC is a superior football conference and provide all sorts of mental contortions to do so. To what end? Let's assume it is true (I don't agree that it is, but let's assume so.). So? Are most football fans going...

I disagree. You’re arguing that FSU beating LSU matters and UGA beating FSU like a drum doesn’t matter. That’s hypocritical. But arguing that point helps your own narrative make sense to you. It reminds me of the engineers who refused to look at the temperature effects on O-rings because they...

Not my point. I think the B1G has a wonderful game experience.

No, that’s not the point of the most recent posts. The most recent angle is that you can objectively rate conference performance (as if it matters) and I disagree with that. The fact base folks are using is to use subjective criteria and twist it to make it appear objective. That‘s the point of...

I have a different view. I grew up listening to Alabama on the radio and later, broadcast tv, then cable. Now streaming. Everything revolved around the Game. Most of my family went to SEC schools .. LSU, Tennessee, Alabama, Ole Miss, Florida, A&M. If the B1G is better than the SEC this next...

I don’t think its productive. I think it’s a fun fact but that’s it.

I don’t disagree. But you have to have comparable standards or they are meaningless. Count ALL games? Ok. Count only regular season but not post season. Ok. But let’s select which games to count and which games to exclude is highly subjective. That‘s one of the reasons why I don’t pay attention...

Let’s see if I understand your logic. Count wins when it favors your narrative but don’t count losses when it doesn’t. If a team suits up, it counts. Otherwise, what’s the point? I won’t address your lame attempt at the remainder of your post. It speaks for itself.

So count it or don't. LSU had linebacker issues. That's why these comparisons are of limited value.

If you count the bowl performance, count FSU’s performance too. 63-3. Ouch.

As I said, select your favorite brand and watch as much or as little as you want. Re the readmit, I recall that failing because UGA voted no. Alabama voted yes. I will double check though.

I'm making the point that it's silly to compare conferences. You seem to want to continue doing so. Hmmmm.,

I’m not an SEC hater. I grew up with the SEC and during my Tech days, Tech played five SEC teams each year: Bama, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn and Georgia. Games were exciting, fun to attend, and road trips were a blast. Some people like the ACC, others the Sunbelt, whatever. I think comparing...

Four. Thank you.

Probably true. And how many times has that happened?

Exactly correct. But I do enjoy the fervor of those who desperately cling to the idea that the ACC is a superior football conference. It isn’t. Adding FSU and Miami was supposed to change that. It didn’t. I enjoy reading these but they are meaningless. Take FSU and Clemson out, and the ACC is...

In terms of football, it is 100% pointless to say a 13-1 team (and conference champ) beating the 5th best team as evidence of conference superiority. There‘s a reason high schools divide into tiers. That makes sense to me.

It’s pointless to compare a conference leading FSU (13-1) beating a 7-5 LSU team as evidence of conference superiority. Its equally pointless to declare a 4-8 Wake Forest team beating a 2-10 Vanderbilt team as evidence of conference superiority. One can argue about the best conference in...

The best suggestion on this site has been to emulate the Premier League. Four levels of 32 teams each. Have a competition and championship in each. Top 4 teams in sub levels move up, bottom four move down. Money is distributed by both a share and what level. It is insane that Vandy gets an SEC...