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Very depressing.

I think it was sinking into Key that his Oline was not up to the task. I, also, think we should have gone for it one way of the other. Not going for it sent a bad signal to the team.

Interested? I thought so. :-) I learned this morning that there is a podcast out there called the Triple Option. It is Urban Meyer's. Mark Ingram and someone else is on it with him.

I admitted in an earlier response that trying something different might have been warranted but the edge and outside didn't seem to be working either. If the OL was pushing people around from the get-go maybe the psyche of the whole team would have been different and Buster wouldn't have needed...

yes. Why keep doing it but you have to have confidence that your online can push people around. That’s why they’re on the field. Yesterday wasn’t the first game they’ve looked weak.

If the OL pushed people around when it counted the play calling for middle runs wouldn’t be questioned. They pushed no one around. Without a doubt the OL was responsible for that loss.

The OL was supposed to be a bright spot at beginning of season, wasn’t it, because of experience?

What record do you forecast for this good team?

It’s still the personnel that is the weakness. That O line was absolutely atrocious and didnt look D1-ish by any stretch of the imagination. Key and Wade have got their work cut out for them.

Neither of those two are 18-22 are they? Are they the ones that we're accused of using a season or two from the Navy?

I thought I was going to die one night coming down, heading north. It was foggy and suddenly I couldn't see the end of the hood of the U-haul I was driving. I knew if I couldn't see the end of the hood the tractor-trailers behind me couldn't see me. Never been more scared to this day.

That was a nice motion on that throw. It shows that he has been working on it.

Thanks for sharing that. We cross the river at least once a year going to Chicago to see our daughter. We'll have to check it out.

Precisely. Losing alot of interest but I'll forever be drawn to BDSGF on Saturday's in the fall.

Our age is showing by some of us in our thoughts and feelings about things like this. :)

twenty minutes north is Indiana isn't it? :)

I didn't hear the game on radio. what was so obvious to you?

If I was Kiffin I'd definitely try Florida. They'd pay him handsomely to come and to leave, if it came down to it. He's probably got what it takes to make FL relevant again and who knows, MFGA.

Ouch!!!

Tucker Gleason is QB for Toledo playing against Ms St on ESPN HD. He’s grown into big young man... 245 lbs. Led them to TD in 1st quarter.