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While I don’t wish to put myself in a position of defending SMU, this is a pretty crucial building block.

But is sure was nice of the ACC to sandwich the rest of their schedule between those 10 and 17 teams! :LOL:

While we’re playing this game, how much did SMU grease the ACC for their schedule? They get 1,5…. 10,11,13,14,16,17. I don’t know how good they are but the schedulers sure as heck rolled out the red carpet for them. Said in another thread…wouldn’t it be the most “ACC” thing in the world for...

Agree… we need to be marginal Clemson fans this year. They could help us with some key wins. Conversely, there is no reason for us to root for SMU. I don’t know how good they really are, but they have a very favorable schedule (dare I say it looks like the easiest ACC schedule) and we won’t...

I don’t disagree…. BUT… Sobering reality will likely kick in soon enough. Can we at least set it aside during preseason?

You’re not wrong… but that’s not the obtuse position of his posts… We have tracked pretty closely to the FSU scenario so far: Good coach hamstrung on funding leaves. Bad coach enters, runs team off cliff. Let’s hope we also witness first hand how a good coach and some reinvestment can...

So…. You’re going with intentionally obtuse? :LOL:

And we’re off the deep end again…

Agreed. “Professional” went out the window when this went public and turned into a legal battle. The only point I can concede is that the commissioner of our conference didn’t have to advocate for FSU as much as he needed to advocate for the quality of an ACC champion. Yeah, last year was a...

I can’t make it to Ireland, but please promise me this… When we are kicking their tails late in the fourth quarter, I would really like to hear the chants… ACC! ACC! ACC!

In a vacuum, you are correct… but colleges have separated AAs from the schools, introduced contractual agreements with strictly for profit media companies, marketing agreements with for profit products / manufacturers and now we’re talking about straight up PE investors. That’s simplistic, but...

Oh I agree completely… I thought your original reference was to the ACC grabbing G5. B12 did it too and it does seem silly. Why split the pie in more slices?

Well we don’t know for sure because folks are disingenuous with (or simply ignorant of) the figures. P2 five-year projections get compared to ACC revenues of 2 years ago. They may be foregoing something, but I suspect that figure is exaggerated. MAYBE they would get out if they could… it...

I don’t know what you mean by near to medium, but I will say this…. Current media deals run through the following years; B1G -2030 B12 - 2031 Sec - 2033 ACC - 2036 The soonest we see discussions by these conferences is 2028-2029, and that’s if there is a good reliable leak. Movement will be...

Sort of… SMU didn’t leave behind their media rights. They paid an exit fee and left whole. Aside from that, just the values of each scenario make it apples and oranges. SMU did concede media payout from the ACC, but even without the media payout, they still make more in the ACC. Figures I saw...

Anyone involved in that is surely more savvy than I, but I’m just not seeing the numbers work… I don’t think the B12 has enough money to keep FSU happy, much less FSU AND PE! Will be interesting to watch, regardless…

No. If the whole thing is about media value, no one is going anywhere without their media rights. It’s a fun exercise but a virtual impossibility. Now maybe FSU thinks that P2 membership is more about survival and would sacrifice money and media for it… that would be a really desperate and...

While you may be touching on the area of compromise to be reached, I think the documents stand alone in a manner that legally allows the ACC to do exactly that. - FSU gave their rights to the ACC. - ACC used the collective rights to get a media contract. - Revenues are distributed to ACC...

I don’t think the legal dust settles until all GOR related issues are resolved. It needs to be defeated or released/ bought out. Although it could TECHNICALLY happen, there really isn’t a feasible scenario in which the BIG or SEC is engaged with a team that is bound by GOR to another...