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Pretty clearly putting lipstick on a pig. My conference was just raided for its best members and we were forced to accept less money in the CFP but everything is great guys, we promise.

It disturbs you to think that some believe the FSU general counsel and one of the largest lawfirms in the country (Greenberg Traurig) may not be lying when they make a claim in a lawsuit? This isn't pushing the bounds of credibility. It would be a flat lie if the option either doesn't exist or...

I mean, FSU is pretty clear on what they believe the ESPN option is. They presented it in public BOT meetings and spelled it out pretty clearly in their legal filings. We know for sure that they have seen the ESPN contract. To believe that the option is for something completely different, you...

Herbstreit was pushing for FSU to be left out of the playoffs before Travis got hurt. Once he got hurt he very vocally continued to push for them to be left out and used Travis's injury as his reason. It was pretty shady to say the least.

You gonna sue the mouse?

The ACC doesn't just have full authority to do whatever they want with the members rights. All material media rights agreements and updates have to be approved by the members themselves. The original contract was approved by the members and presumably updates were approved as well. Well except...

That analogy doesnt make any sense. Surely you can submit a FOIA request to obtain the contracts or purchase orders schools have with vendors. How the vendor they chose obtained chromebooks or manufactured them isn’t really relevant. The ACC isn’t a vendor selling a product to FSU. It is a third...

I am actually kind of intrigued by this. Im not sure what FSU's play is here. They have seen the ESPN agreement. They know what is in it. They either want it to be public for whatever reason or they want to put pressure on ESPN to sort this out. Not really sure which. I am also curious how it...

Another lawsuit to put on the stack. This time from the Florida AG. https://247sports.com/college/florida-state/article/fsu-acc-lawsuit-florida-attorney-general-espn-230964956/

While this sounds great, Jim Philips hasn't exactly shown himself to be much of a leader nor does he have any power anyways. He will do whatever ESPN orders him to do.

An explanation from a lawyer on Reddit who appears to have no ties to the ACC or FSU:

Im not sure ESPN wants the ACC to dissolve. They just want to move its premier teams to their premier conference. After that, and probably a few more teams leaving for the Big 10 and Big 12, they can negotiate a new contract with the leftovers of the ACC for a substantially lower rate which can...

FSU's legal counsel said in the BOT meeting on Dec 22 that she has reviewed the multi media rights contract. The league doesn't prevent members from coming to the ACC offices and viewing it. It is however closely monitored and no pictures or note taking is allowed. As for whether ESPN wants out...

Like I have said. I think its very unlikely that FSU's lawyers misinterpreted the contract and I think its very unlikely that they completely lied in a legal filing. Sure there is no way to know for sure without seeing the contract ourselves. The best we can do is take the word of someone who has.

Declining early makes no sense because they will be the media partners for the ACC until 2027 either way. They gain literally nothing by declining before they have to. Currently they have to make a decision by February 2025. That is their new contractual decision date assuming the ACC doesn't...

It would be interesting to see how they would define viewership. If UGA plays Vandy and it gets 5 million viewers, then Vandy gets a higher payout? You may have a situation where programs with less viewers on average start paying teams like UGA, Bama, and Ohio St for games.

ESPN is on the hook for the ACC deal until 2027 whether they decline the option or not. Declining makes no sense if the ACC doesn't actually force them to make a decision.

Your response was "who in the hell was voluntarily making long term decisions". This wasn't a voluntary decision. It was a contractually obligated decision that the ACC allowed them to weasel their way out of with no benefit to our conference at all. So why did we grant this extension?

ESPN contractually had to make a decision in 2021 about whether to extend the ACC media rights deal to 2036. They obviously didn't do so and asked the ACC for an extension. Why do you think they didn't do so and why do you think the ACC granted the extension while getting nothing in return?

Declining the option doesn't make any sense if the ACC will just keep pushing back the option date while getting nothing in return.