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<blockquote data-quote="gtbeak" data-source="post: 1009883" data-attributes="member: 3164"><p>Your reading comprehension skills are failing you. The OBP for walks is 100%, but the OBP for walks, HBP, and base hits is also 100%. And as <strong>I have now said three times***,</strong> <strong>I am only saying a walk is better than a hit IFF it is known that the hitter will be getting on base.</strong> I agree 100% it is better for a pitcher to throw strikes. That has never been a question in this discussion. But the question at hand was how can two pitching staffs with a WHIP of 1.74 have vastly different ERAs, and I pointed out the likely explanation is that one staff gives up homeruns at a rate that is 60% higher than the other staff. The 2021 staff walked more batters but limited hits and especially homeruns, while the 2024 staff limits the walks a little better but gives up base hits and especially homeruns at a higher rate.</p><p></p><p>The OPS for a walk is 1.000, same for a HBP. The OPS for a base hit is AT A MINIMUM 2.000, but likely higher. Same for wOBA, though I'd have to dig up my wOBA calculation articles to know the exact difference.</p><p></p><p>*** My first post: "I know we like to say "don't walk batters", but that is because when you walk a batter you have no chance of getting them out, whereas pitching to contact you have the chance that the hitter will hit a rocket right at your fielder." My 2nd post "you want to pitch to contact (really I meant throw strikes, I'd rather get swing and miss over contact) since you have the chance for the hitter to hit a rocket right at one of your fielders".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gtbeak, post: 1009883, member: 3164"] Your reading comprehension skills are failing you. The OBP for walks is 100%, but the OBP for walks, HBP, and base hits is also 100%. And as [B]I have now said three times***,[/B] [B]I am only saying a walk is better than a hit IFF it is known that the hitter will be getting on base.[/B] I agree 100% it is better for a pitcher to throw strikes. That has never been a question in this discussion. But the question at hand was how can two pitching staffs with a WHIP of 1.74 have vastly different ERAs, and I pointed out the likely explanation is that one staff gives up homeruns at a rate that is 60% higher than the other staff. The 2021 staff walked more batters but limited hits and especially homeruns, while the 2024 staff limits the walks a little better but gives up base hits and especially homeruns at a higher rate. The OPS for a walk is 1.000, same for a HBP. The OPS for a base hit is AT A MINIMUM 2.000, but likely higher. Same for wOBA, though I'd have to dig up my wOBA calculation articles to know the exact difference. *** My first post: "I know we like to say "don't walk batters", but that is because when you walk a batter you have no chance of getting them out, whereas pitching to contact you have the chance that the hitter will hit a rocket right at your fielder." My 2nd post "you want to pitch to contact (really I meant throw strikes, I'd rather get swing and miss over contact) since you have the chance for the hitter to hit a rocket right at one of your fielders". [/QUOTE]
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